Monday, August 31, 2009

What Are My Chances or Probability Of Dying At Age (Enter Your Age Here)

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I suppose you're wondering what your chances of dying at Age X (enter your age here).  Well, if you read on, you'll find a graph and a fascinating formula that tells you just that.  And why age velocity is the solution for health care finance.  Much has been written about the preventative care paradox. Living longer and staying healthier ends up costing society more than if you die young. So I have to ask the question.
Does staying healthy end up costing more in the end?
I don't buy it. One can look to the cost of a member of society and suggest that the best public policy, from an economic stand point, is to encourage policies that kill off the populace as quick as possible. The shorter you live the less resources you consume. The less greenhouse gases you produce. The less Medicare, Medicaid, private insurance, social security, food stamps, assistance and unemployment benefits you consume. The less theft you are likely to commit. The less violence you commit on others.

With fewer people consuming resources, damaging the environment and committing crimes, the world would be a better place. Right?

If you extrapolate this line of thinking out to infinity, the greatest public policy declaration a society could offer its populace would be forced abortion of all pregnancies. The cost of a human being to society far outweighs the actual cost of a medical abortion.

Does forced abortion of all pregnant women reduce social security costs, Medicare costs, Medicaid costs, food stamp consumption, unemployment benefits, crime, theft and the emission of greenhouse gases? You bet it does. By shear numbers alone, the smaller the population, the less they consume. Continuing the extrapolation, a population of zero costs the central government zero.

However, the antagonist to this argument would suggest that humans bring a lot of value to society as well. They bring innovation that creates jobs. They bring technology that increases quality of life. They bring advances that reduce damage to the environment. They bring tax dollars to the nanny state. They generate growth with a rising population. They extend life through medical and public health policies.

The longer a member of society remains productive, the longer they continue to generate consumption that drives economic growth, which increases jobs and increases the tax base which increases the ability of the government to continue their nanny state policies.

The real question here is:
Does an unhealthy person generate less net productivity through out life than a healthy person who consumes their net productivity at the end of life?
In other words, when looking at the net benefit to society, including net economic production, is it better for a less productive person to die younger or is it better to society for a more productive person to die older. Does prevention of disease have a net benefit to society? My answer is a resounding yes.

I like to bring in two concepts here
  1. Loss of Compounding Due To Consumption of Early Gratification
  2. Age Velocity
What if all of us were born with disabilities that required everyone to be 100% dependent on the government for medical, housing, food, and all cares associated with living. Without productive members of society, no government could sustain a tax base that could support 100% of its population for 100% of its needs.

Now lets imagine 10% of us were born with disabilities that required 100% dependency on the government for medical, housing, food, and other associated cares. Whether a government can finance 100% support of 10% through the tax base of the other 90% is dependent on how the government defines the support and how they define the tax base, both of which are highly political decisions which will always run contrary to economic realities (for example Medicaid/Medicare).

Now imagine if instead of being born with 100% disability, you generated, through your own actions, a lifestyle that created disability as you aged. Let's say 5% entered the nanny state as net consumers at the age of 20. And every 5 years another 5% of the population entered the nanny state as net consumers of society's resources. By 65 years old, almost 1/2 the population are already net consumers. What kind of burden does this place on the productive members and their ability to provide for the net consumers?

What we have here is the lost opportunity cost of early consumption generated by becoming net consumers at an early age. The major loss of opportunity cost to society for the early net consumers is through compounding of interest on the economic consumption of early gratification.

In other words, what you consume in health care resources at age 20, is lost forever in opportunity cost of economic value at the age of 80. If you spend $1000 on a 20 year old in health care, that $1,000 could have provided $10,000 or more in health care for that 20 year old, in 60 years, in compounding interest. The more you spend now, the less you have later, at a large opportunity cost of compounding.

Some would argue that early net consumption of economic resources more than makes up for an earlier death due to poor health from a lack of prevention. And there for we should not build public policy based on prevention.

At this point I would like to suggest my second concept. The Age Velocity. I read an intriguing blog post that suggested your chances of dying double every eight years, as a mathematical certainty.

In other words, the older you are, the more likely you are to die, no matter how healthy you are. By the time you hit age 100, your chances of dying in the following year are about 50%, even if you are the healthiest 100 year old on earth. This is one reason comparing chemo in a 92 year old with chemo in a 20 year old with equal functional status does not make sense. Even if you were a 100 year old with the functional status of a 20 year old, your chance of dying the following year is 50%.

I call this Age Velocity. What effect does it have on net productive or consumption of lifetime resources? It means the older you are when you get sick, the less time you have to consume your resources, and there fore the more likely you are to be a net producer, even if you become a net consumer at the end of your life.

I am here to suggest, if you are a healthy, productive member of society, who made lifestyle choices which included you didn't smoke, you ate healthy, you exercised, and you avoided obesity, and you reduced your chances of getting diabetes, stroke, heart attack or cancer by 80%, the value of your lack of health care consumption in your early years, through compounding interest on your delayed gratification and lack of opportunity cost, would be markedly higher than what you could consume in your final years of age velocity.

In other words, the older you are when you get sick, the less likely you are to be a net consumer of health care dollars due to the fewer years you have to use them. This is the idea of finishing strong. Dying well by living well and enjoying health in your golden years.

I see this clinically all the time. When you are 50 and you have systemic vascular disease from your lifestyle related obesity, diabetes and smoking, lifestyle choices that have lead to CHF, PVD, stents, CABG, chronic anticoagulation, ICDs, amputations, heart attacks and on and on; When you have a younger patient experiencing all these ailments, they are less productive, generate less tax revenue, consume vast amounts of health care resources and generate a strongly net positive consumption of society resources as well as a strong loss of opportunity cost for compounding on the lack of delayed gratification.

They may die young, but they die after years and years of resource consumption. Remember, while a 100 year old may have a 50% chance of dying the following year, a 50 year old has only a .3%. The chances of dying accelerates with age, and with it the elderly lose the ability to consume.

I see this clinically all the time when 100 year olds get admitted, with weakness, their medication profile showing only a couple of vitamins and a baby aspirin. This 100 year old has been a net producer their entire life. Generating an income as well as tax dollars, saving for retirement, delaying resource consumption of health care dollars while her funds compound for 40 years over the 50 year old. The older you are, the less likely physicians are to offer aggressive interventions, the less likely patients are to accept them,, and the more likely rational patient expectations rule. Bring rational expectations together with the velocity of age and you have a prescription to solve the health care finance beast known as government funded health care.

I would suggest, the longer she remains healthy, the more productive she is to society, the larger her ability to generate a retirement fund, the more taxes she pays and the less she ultimately consumes in total resources. Being healthy is a net positive for society, because the benefits she brings to the table outweighs the consumption, when the opportunity cost of delayed gratification is added to the equation.

I might suggest that the current proposals that your government is trying to cram down the entitled American population does nothing to solve the bankrupting nature of current finance problems. Remember the 99 trillion dollar storm on the horizon? The proposals will in fact accelerate the problem. Costing two or three trillion dollars, I'm sure, in just the first ten years.

Until we accept healthy lifestyles as the solution to health care funding, insuring everyone and treating everyone the same does nothing but fast track America for doom. One only has to look at every country with universal government funded health care and find them struggling to pay for a populace that demands everything, but accepts no responsibility in how they live their lives.

Live well and die old, but young. That is the solution.

Sunday, August 30, 2009

Generational Theft Visualized (A Picture)

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Heres' a picture of generational theft.

Is Economic Informed Consent A Solution To Cut Out Of Control Costs?

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Perhaps, as no one is currently held accountable for cost in our current feed from the trough FREE=MORE.

55% of Americans believe that their insurance company should have to pay for an expensive treatment, even if has not been proven to be more effective than a less expensive treatment.
This author believes economic informed consent is the solution. He is in for an uphill battle as witnessed by the entitled masses above. What we need is ZERO % of Americans who believe their insurance company should have to pay for an expensive treatment, even if it has not been proven to be more effective than a less expensive treatment.

Eventually all nations that rely on cost sharing insurance programs as their currency of choice, without overt systems in place to ration care, will eventually reach stage eight. FREE=MORE says so. And the public above confirms it.

What Happened To The Middle Class?

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What happened to the middle class

They got richer.


The rich got richer and the poor got richer. The only way a government perpetuates its own necessity is by convincing brainwashing you into believing you are worse now than you were before.

It's time to pay for your health care American. You're not as poor as you want everyone to believe.

Drunk Monkey Drinking Alcohol (Hilarious Video)

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Strange stuff. Who knew that drunk monkeys existed, or that and entire species of monkeys drink alcohol.


Cost of Routine Daily Hospital Labs

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What is the cost of routine daily hospital labs?  About $275 at one institution.

Saturday, August 29, 2009

Adenosine Heart Pause On EKG

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The lovely adenosine heart pause. I did this just the other day. Rates of 160 and then Bam

Not any more.

Blacks And Hispanics Have Worse Outcomes With Carotid Endarterectomy

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It seems to be a combination of factors. Patient characteristics, less experienced doctors and less experienced hospitals. I also found it interesting that they attributed bad outcomes to inappropriate surgery, which was done more often in minorities than whites.

These surgeons are caught in a catch 22. If you have a patient that meets evidence based guidelines for performing it (such as the amount of stenosis in a symptomatic patient) but the patient is too sick or the expected outcome is bad, they could be sued for not conforming to guidelines of therapy if the patient condition decompensates. If they perform the surgery in patients who meet criteria, even with worse underlying disease, they are bashed for doing them in patients who are too sick, but patients believe that everything that could be done was done.  It's the same for bloodless surgery.  

You can't have it both ways. Sick patients get sicker whether you do surgery or not. Claiming they did worse because of surgery is premature. Perhaps their rate of death or disability would be much higher had they not undergone the surgery.

Perhaps blacks and Hispanics, who smoke more often than whites decided to light 'em up the day after getting home.

Deciding when to offer surgery and when not to is not as simple as saying
Patient to sick for surgery
You never know until after the fact whether they would have a bad outcome or not.

How Many People Die Every year From Smoking Cigarettes or Tobacco?

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 How many people die every year from smoking cigarettes or other tobacco?

Millions
I do find it interesting that 83% of these deaths will be in low and middle income countries. A while back I posted an article that suggested rich smokers die as often as poor smokers. It's not lack of access to third party insurance that kills you, its how you treat your body. More poor people smoke. More poor people die. Fewer poor people smoke. Fewer poor people die.

It really is that simple, considering 80% of deaths attributed to diabetes, stroke, heart attack and cancer are preventable with lifestyle modifications.   What is the average cost for a pack of cigarettes?  For everyone still smoking, it's not enough.  

Strangest Rug Ever? Rug With a Head On It?

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Is this the strangest rug ever? Nothing like having a rug with a head on it on your living room floor. 

Is This An Example Of A Drug Seeker?

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Funny-Allergy-ListOr a patient with psychiatric illness educational deficiencies. It's a good thing I haven't heard of most of these medications or I'd have few options to treat them.

Friday, August 28, 2009

Daddy's Little Girl Is Not So Little Anymore

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Daddy's little girl is not so little anymore.  Here are crazy stories of what it means to be young these days.  Go read about the 14 year old. It's just plain sad that their parents failed them.

22nd Drunk Driving Offense

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Man is arrested for 22nd drunk driving offense. Where are the lawyers?

How Do Patients Choose Their Hospital?

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How do patients choose their hospital?

#1 is why hospitals hire primary care doctors. Not because primary care makes money, but because once the doctor is owned by a hospital, all their patients get their total knees, CABGs and stents placed there. That's where the real money is. It's a form of self referral, hospital style.

Should All Boys Be Circumcised?

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Should all boys be circumscribed?  There appears to be some controversy brewing. The New York Times is reporting that the CDC may recommend just that in an effort to protect the boys against HIV as they become sexually active:

The American Academy of Pediatrics is currently neutral. As a result, many state Medicaid programs do not pay for the procedure. But it sounds like that may be changing, with a policy indicating circumcision has health benefits beyond HIV prevention.

And the Daily Dish reports that...
I don't see what the big deal is. Everyone seems to be piercing and tattooing their bodies these days. What's wrong with a little circumcision?

Perhaps you could mandate the same kind of prevention that schools do with their vaccination requirements. What do you think? Should all boys be circumcised? Considering there is a proposed ban on circumcision in San Fransisco, this isn't far fetched. 

A Hematologist Fellow Studies For Internal Medicine Boards

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This is why internists are invaluable. And why you can't just read an article or two, or take 500 hours of clinical preceptorships from 8am to 5 pm for a year or "freshen up" after years of taking out gallbladders once the hands are crippled and expect to offer competent independent quality care to patients who don't know the difference between hypertension and hypernatremia.  Internal medicine is beast all by itself. As any internist will tell you.

Thursday, August 27, 2009

Is The Solution To The Nursing Shortage To Expand The Independent Responsibilities Of Nurses Aides?

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Carpe Diem discusses the Smack down...
There is a good reason you can't enroll in a truncated residency or online medical school experience. It's a shame the nursing profession sees otherwise. Training providers with an undifferentiated scope from medical doctors while presenting them to the public as equals in scope and capability is a sham.

I am waiting for the day that the nursing profession declares their intent to solve the general surgery shortage by training NPs skilled in the mastery of surgical skills through abbreviated online course work and perhaps a 1000 hour clinical internship. And then present them to the world with unlimited scope defined only by the comfort level of the surgical NP. Perhaps they can do all the easy appys and hand off all the clearly ruptured ones to the surgeon.

Easy cases should be easily handled by an NP with a 1000K hours of training. Clearly, that's the case.

Perhaps the solution to the nursing shortage is to expand the scope of nurses aides to perform duties in full scope and capabilities as certified RNs.  Would all the nurses out there have a problem with your profoundly under educated and under skilled nurses aides being given the same independent scope of responsibility that took you four years of training to certify with?

If not, why not? Is the solution to the nursing shortage expanding the duties of nurses aides?

Doctor on the Plane Funny Story: The Gastroenterologist

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One pediatric gastroenterologist's hilarious recollection of being commandeered into action to assist an obese 55 year old lady complaining of shortness of breath.

I often find that just having an internist in the room solves most problems pretty quickly.

Cankles Surgery? Are You Serious?

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Cankles are the combination of calf and ankle that obliterate the normal shape of an ankle (thus the cankle terminology). But what does it mean to you? For some, having cankles means having cankle  surgery:
Some people turn to ankle surgery (ie liposuction), that can run anywhere from $4,000 to $8,000.
That's crazy? If you have cankles, bloodless surgery is definitely not the answer. If you are even contemplating surgery for cankles, a surgeon is not the doctor you need.

How To Cut the Risk of Diabetes, Stroke, Heart Attack and Cancer by 80%?

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Want to know how to cut your risk of diabetes, stroke, heart disease and cancer? It's all about healthy lifestyles.
  • Don't become obese (BMI lower than 30)
  • Don't smoke
  • Eat healthy (low in red meat, high in fruits and vegetables)
  • Moderate exercise (3 1/2 hours a week)
Do these four things and you slash your risk by 80%: (study link)
With all this talk about how to pay for health care, the answers are staring us in the face. We pay for health care by staying healthy. We want America the rich to pays for our health care needs. What we don't want is an America that forces us into personal responsibility to prevent the costs associated with poor lifestyles. We want our smokes and McDonald's and cable TV. And we want America the rich to pay for the side effects. We are a nation of entitled lazy couch potatoes. We want our health care, just not our health.

Stroke heart disease, cancer and diabetes are among the top ten causes of death and disability in this country. The whole discussion going on now is a farce. Politicians are trying to figure out a way to buy off the populace with FREE=MORE unlimited access to health care at the hands of some one other than themselves. Insuring everyone will do nothing to make use healthier nor will it reduce costs. In fact, costs will accelerate.

Perhaps it's time to stop blaming genetics for a large part of our health care problems and place blame right where it belongs. The numbers don't lie. Lifestyle is the driving force behind health. And the lions share of the top killers in our country are the direct result of poor choices in life. Instead of spending one trillion two or three trillion dollars on insurance to take care of poor choices, we should be spending 1/10 of that on public policies that generate returns 100X greater than universal insurance.

If only Obama had the guts to tell Americans they were just fat smoking lazy food junkies and spending a trillion two or three trillion dollars on them was the mother of all wasteful spending.

Imagine for a moment if you were given the choice. Your health insurance would be your responsibility. If you engaged in all four categories of lifestyle choices, your insurance would be FREE, paid for by the government. If you engaged in none of the four categories of lifestyle choices, you would pay full price or go without.

Imagine for one moment what a revolutionary concept that would bring to the insurance of disease. Instead, Obama and Company's idea of insurance is to treat everyone the same, realizing that lifestyle choices could reduce the top killers in this country by 80%. We are about to begin the next phase in American health care with Stage IV: America Gets Even Fatter.

H.A.P.P.Y. Act Tax Deduction. Tax Deductions For Pet Owners

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Have a pet?  You might get some tax deductions with the H.A.P.P.Y. Act



It's about time I had special tax treatment. Go see a picture of the W-K9 tax form. Funny stuff.  I wonder how much you can write off for a pet therapy dog.

Hitler Loses Big In The Stock Market (Hilarious Video)

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Ever wonder what Hitler losing big in the stock market would look like?  Check out this hilarious video.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Propofol During Colonoscopy Anesthesia By Gastroenterologists and General Practitioners

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If you are going to convict Michael Jackson's doctor for homicide for using propofol as colonoscopy anesthesia at home without anesthesiology support you will have to convict gastroenterologists and general practitioners for using colonoscopy anesthesia without anesthesiology support, if a patient dies on the table.   in their outpatient endoscopy suites.

If you don't want to blame the propofol colonoscopy anesthesia  use in an out of hospital setting as the basis of the "gross negligence", but rather the off label indication for Dr. Conrad's use, then you will be convicting millions of doctors for using off label medications every day they go to work and cause the death of patients for such things as treatment of ascites with lasix when the patient dies of acute renal failure.
 
The Cochrane Review indicates that only one study compared the administration of propopfol by anesthesiologists compared to non-anesthesiologists with no difference in procedure time or patient satisfaction. 

Another big study suggested the safety of propofol when administered by general practitioners in free standing endoscopy suites, over thousands of patients. It appears colonoscopy anesthesia can be safely administered in non ICU settings by non anesthesiologists.
Gastroenterologists are no more likely than general practitioners who are no more likely to be adequately trained to administer colonoscopy anesthesia  than say a cardiologist. Yet the evidence, while limited, suggests colonsocopy anesthesia can be done safely by non anesthesiologists.

Performing bad CPR does not equate to homicide. If that was the case, I would recommend many of Happy's hospital RNs be charged with murder for bad providing bad compression technique.

Rules of administration for conscious sedation( such as for colonsocopy anesthesia)  vary from hospital to hospital and no such standard exists for out of hospital administration. The administration of propofol outside of hospitals is quite common. For off label uses such as colonoscopy anesthesia.

You can substitute insomnia for colonoscopy and the endoscopy suite with MJs mini ICU and the result is criminal homicide prosecution for every gastroenterologist or general practitioner that performs screening colonoscopies with colonoscopy anesthesia that result in a bad outcome.

The mob mentality wants to send Dr Conrad to jail for homicide. A ridiculous assertion given that this medicine is used in outpatient settings by nonanesthesiologists in off label indications all the time to perform screening colonoscopies. The evidence suggests that propofol can be administered as colonoscopy anesthesia for routine colonoscopies, by non anesthesiologists. You cannot convict a man for administering a medication that the data suggests can be done safely in an out of hospital setting.  Unless of course you are the mob. Which is exactly why this man will get a vigorous defense in the court of law. As he should.

What Would God Say About The Public Option?

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What would God say about the Public Option?  Over at Grand Rants they are discussing Obama's assertion that we should be "our brother's keepers".

Well said. You can't legislate volunteerism without destroying it at the same time.

Difference Betwee Japanese And United States Health Care Systems Different?

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Compare the differences between the Japanese and United States Health Care System. 

The Japanese diet. Check
The lack of obesity in Japan. Check.
The lack of violent crime. Check.

The lack of lawyers? What?
 
Defensive medicine is expensive Is it irrational? Yes. But so are the standards of care that have been established and perpetrated not by rational evidence based medicine but rather by fear of the lawsuit.

Let me give you an example. What if evidence based guidelines argued against ordering a CT angiogram of the chest in a patient on room air with a normal d-dimer who complains of shortness of breath.

Now what if the standard of care in your community, a standard established out of fear of being sued, said that all patients with shortness of breath get a CT scan of their chest, regardless of the oxygen levels or d-dimer level.

The lawyer could sue that one doctor who doesn't order a CT scan based on evidence based guidelines because the local standard does not operate on the evidence. It operates on the standard of care which was established by irrational fear based medicine.

Now you can understand why every patient gets a heart cath. Every patient gets a colonoscopy. Every patient gets an EEG. Every patient gets that liver spot biopsied or that lung spot biopsied. Every patient gets their heart valve replaced or their gallbladder taken out.

Because nobody wants to get sued for doing nothing. It's a lot easier to defend yourself in court when you say everyone else is doing everything and that's what I did, than it is to say the evidence says to do nothing, even though my local community standard is to do everything.

And that's why the Japanese are cheaper

Ted Kennedy Dead At 77 Of Brain Cancer Despite His Access To The Greatest Care In The World

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Fourteen months ago Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with a malignant glioma. This disease is terrible. Half of all people stricken are dead in a year. 75% are dead in two years.

He traveled the country to get the best care possible. He visited icons of American health care for treatments that included surgery, chemo and radiation at some of the nation's greatest institutions.

He had all the power and access money could buy. And still, his disease took him quickly. He lived as would be expected by the statistics. He lived "longer" than his doctors expected him to, but certainly not longer than the statistics would suggest. In the end he consumed the same kind of access he was afforded, an unlimited orgy of FREE=MORE in his final year of life.

38 years prior he championed a universal federal health system.

The irony here is that no federal run insurance system in the world would be able to fund, and sustain on a national level, the kind of FREE=MORE that Senator Kennedy consumed in his final 14 months. As a liberal icon for 4 decades, he pushed for a government insurance that would set prices and socialize the delivery of your health care.

The irony here is that had his plan succeeded almost 40 years ago, there would be no world class neurosurgeons operating at Duke to try and save his life. There would likely be no Temodar or technological advancements in radiation therapy had prices been fixed by a government board that stripped out profit in search of social solidarity. Many advanced therapies, medications and technical innovations are enjoyed throughout the world because of the risk taken by American companies. Without America's willingness to take risk with capital, the world would be worse off than it is today.

The health care technology-medical-industrial complex we currently enjoy, and the one that Senator Kennedy basked in at the end of his life would not exist had his policies been implemented in 1971. He would not have access to life extending surgery, chemo and radiation that may have at most, added several months to his life.

He pushed for a system of care that he would have struggled in his final year of life. One where he would be shunned due to cost. One that would turn him away in favor of spending his million dollar health care needs on vaccinations for children, or beta blockers for heart failure patients. Terminal cancer? Spending a million dollars of federal tax dollars to extend a life 2 months?

The system the Senator Kennedy envisioned was one that could not sustain. Look only to the bankrupt Medicare National Bank, a federal system of only 50 million Americans, and ask yourself how Senator Kennedy could pay for a universal single payer federal health system that offered FREE=MORE to every citizen.

A FREE=MORE that he consumed till the very end. His death is tragic. But let's not forget his policies and every other politician who wishes to force the cost of care on to the American taxpayer (at least only the rich) would not sustain by any economic measurement. What he was offered, what he asked for and what he consumed in health care expenditures in his final 14 months is neither sustainable or rational by any economic measurement on a national level.

Proposed Health Care Plans Of 1971

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The more things change the more they stay the same. Different Congress. Different President. Same dilemma. When you're spending other peoples money, FREE=MORE will always prevail. The only way to control spending is to stop spending

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

What Kind Of Doctor Are You? Funny Examples.

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I think I'd consider myself a Drilling Consultant.  Check out The Parent and The Mechanic over at Doctor D

Why Primary Care Doctors Are Fed Up

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A primary care doctor  is fed up and speaks up:  The entitled population speaks up once again in the comments. With the direction we are heading, I can only thank the Heavenly stars I am an internist trained physician with the knowledge and skills to navigate my future illnesses in a world without MD trained primary care.

Are Nurses the Solution To The Primary Care Crises?

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A guest post over at Kevind MD asks the question. One reader responds...

I have to say, that was eloquently stated. A doctor cannot practice without good nurses.

Lethal Doses Of Propofol Found In Michael Jackson and Multiple Doctors Are Being Investigated

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So the final toxicology reports indicate that MJ was found with lethal levels of propofol, an anesthetic used to induce sleep. I am not a toxicologist, BUT I have to say that specific doses of any medication in an appropriate clinical situation are meaningless.
 
It's very difficult to state, with 100% clinical certainty that a patient had a lethal level of any medication in their system because every patient responds differently to different medications. Criminalizing lethal levels sets a dangerous precedent for doctors everywhere who's patients are walking around with lethal levels of medication in their system.

What killed MJ was not likely a lethal dose of any medication, but rather a combination of clinically therapeutic drugs that resulted in a bad outcome. A bad outcome killed MJ. A bad outcome that was the result of his own drug addiction, using drugs, at clinically therapeutic levels for him.

Take for example Oxycontin, a powerful long acting narcotic pain medicine blamed on thousands of deaths a year due to overdose. A normal starting dose is 10mg twice a day. I have a patient that presents to Happy's hospital every so often on 640mg (that's six hundred and forty) of Oxycontin twice a day PLUS high doses of immediate release narcs PLUS a PCA IV pain pump while hospitalized.

These doses are enough to kill 99.99999% of the population of humans, horses, elephants and rhinos. But these doses are clinically safe for the patient. And these doses are required to treat the underlying condition. Is the patient physiologically addicted? Of course. Are these doses lethal? Of course not, at least not yet. But they would be if my patient died. A walking talking and breathing patient taking lethal doses of Oxycontin contradicts the notion that you can have lethal levels of propofol in your system. You only know the dose is lethal until after the fact. MJ may have had the same dose, or likely even larger 999 times before. Does that mean the dose was lethal if the patient lived? Of course not. It just happened to be lethal this one time because the patient died.

Regarding my Oxycontin patient, what happens next year if this patient comes in, takes the same clinically therapeutic dose they have taken for years and suddenly gets respiratory arrest and dies? Heck, what if they took these same doses they have taken for years at home and dies in their sleep from respiratory arrest?

They would show lethal doses of narcs in their system, while living with these doses for years. Are you going to arrest the doctor for manslaughter because the patient had lethal levels of Oxycontin in their system?

If MJ was taking propofol for a long time (which sounds like he was) what may be lethal to the average Joe is not lethal to a prescription drug addict like MJ. He must also be addicted to benzodiazepines. Hell, he got benzo doses high enough to kill 99.9999% of humans, horses, elephants and rhinos. What's to say he isn't also phsyiologically addicted to the propofol too? I have alcoholics who require huge doses of propofol just to get them to close their eyes. Would their levels be lethal? Surely as defined by what ever standards to coroner is using. But then again, any level is lethal if the patient dies. You only know that after the fact. My patient taking 640 mg of Oxycontin twice a day is not taking a lethal dose until they die, and then the coroner could say they were taking a lethal dose and accuse the doctor of criminal homicide or manslaughter.

Ridiculous.

Now there is word that the DA is going after other doctors as well:
So my question is who are you blaming? Are you going to criminalize every doctor who, in retrospect (it's always retrospect) gave benzo's or narcs to a prescription junkie? Are you trying to criminalize medical treatment, that in retrospect was not the right medical treatment. The last time I checked not practicing standard of care (which itself is often irrational and legal based) got you sued in civil court not criminal court. If the DA is now going to criminalize bad standard of care practices, then every doctor and patient should be on the look out for the future of medicine.

If a patient has a bad outcome from off label uses of medications for which the FDA has not clinically approved, doctors everywhere risk going to jail for practicing medicine that isn't approved by your government. And patients risk losing access to life saving medicines that doctors are too afraid to prescribe.

I'll tell you right now, if Dr Conrad is convicted of manslaughter for administering "lethal levels" of a medication, I'm going to refuse to prescribe my patient who requires 640mg of Oxycontin twice a day and instead refer them to detox while they are writhing in pain. I'm not going to take the fall and go to jail for prescribing "lethal levels" of Oxycontin to a patient that requires lethal levels to function on a daily basis.

Heck, I may even decide that my alcoholics going through DTs who require lethal levels of propofol represent too great a risk for me and not induce a medical coma, but rather let them lay in agony while their DTs subside. I'm not going to risk being convicted of criminal homicide for giving lethal levels of medications to patients who's physiology requires it and who may die with lethal levels of propofol in their system.

The same could be said for IV insulin. I've had patients on 20 units an hour of insulin drip. Is this a lethal level to most people. Of course. But to the diabetic who needs 20 units an hour, it's therapeutic. If that patients gets a hypoglycemic coma, arrests and dies, will I get convicted of criminal homicide for giving lethal levels of insulin?

What the DA is trying to do here is criminalize doctors for providing care that is not FDA approved, that is outside normal physiology and that is outside standard of care. Every doctor and patient should fear for the future of medicine if the DA succeeds in criminalizing a bad outcome.

Take away his license. Sue him for all his debt. Throw him in jail for a bad outcome? Hardly. You as a patient should fear for your future health if doctors are thrown in jail for bad outcomes.

Monday, August 24, 2009

Health Care Reform On the Back of a Napkin

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Health care reform on the back of a napkin.


The Eight Stages Of American Medicine

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Sadsurgeon, in a comment has perfectly described the history of American medicine.

How Cash For Clunkers Is Like Government Health Care

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How is cash for clunkers like government health care? This is classic FREE=MORE. Offer the public free and they will take more. Free cash for cars? More cars. The government couldn't even predict how much money to fund it through Labor Day for a 1 month program worth 1 billion no wait, 3 billion dollars. A simple program to give away money for cars couldn't even have an accurate projection over a month.

You don't have to have a big imagination to think how the thought of the government predicting the cost of their health care proposals over 10 years of FREE=MORE will be woefully inadequate. I suspect that a 1 trillion dollar program will actually cost double or triple that once the wheels are in motion. FREE=MORE says it will.

They did it with Iraq. They did it with AIG and Citi and GM. They did it with Bush Stimulus #1, remember, the free money that was supposed to prevent the deep recession we are in now. It didn't do anything but add a quarter of a trillion dollars to the deficit. They are doing it now with Stimulus #2 and certainly, a Stimulus #3 is on the way.

They have done it for the last 50 years with Medicare. The government has proven its inability to spend wisely. You could tax the entire nation 100% and your Senators and Congressmen and women would still find a way to need more money. Because their spending decides whether they have a job at the end of the day.

What we need is an America where the future job prospects of our legislative branch are tied not to how much money they spend, but how much money they don't spend. I heard one of my representatives say a while back that if they don't make a cash grab for the federal money, then other states will and Happy's state will be left in the dust.

This is the mentality that is bankrupting our country. It's no different than the primary medical physicians who are too afraid to opt out of Medicare because they fear all the other doctors around them will take their FREE=MORE patients and they will be left to struggle in a cash only business.

It's no different. FREE=MORE drives the inability of both to survive on the merits of their wisdom and instead find their livelihood dependent on FREE government money to appease the masses.

Read what this Anesthsiologist has to say regarding Cash for Clunkers and government run healthcare. It's spot

The House of Greed Came Knocking Down

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From the NYTs is a really great read about the housing crash before us.  And why I have no sympathy for people being thrown out onto the streets at their own hands of greed. If you treat your home like a cash machine, you have no one to blame but yourself when the bill collector comes a knocking. It looks like these people were lucky. They sold before their value came crashing down. For those who didn't, thus is the house of greed that came knocking down.

Sunday, August 23, 2009

Obama's Five Million Dollar Standard For Quality-Adjusted Life Year

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The New York Times is reporting on the uninsured. A lot of fluff, but buried within the article in paragraph five is this intriguing statistic.
 
 
The IOM, that's the same organization that Obama talks about when he says we are killing 100K people a year due to medical errors. So I can only believe that Obama believes their data in this case.

Let's look at the numbers. Let's round up for easy numbers. 20,000 deaths a year are attributed to lack of insurance. Obama is trying to brainwash the public into believing we need to spend one trillion dollars in public money over the next 10 years to cover everyone. Let us use easy math and assume a linear function over time. That means an additional 100 billion dollars a year are required to insure the entire nation.

And in the process we will save 20,000 lives a year. That's 100 billion dollars a year to save 20 thousand lives. That means Obama wants to spend 5 million dollars to save one life for one year. That's a Quality-adjusted Life Year of 5 million dollars.

The current standard acceptable range is about 50K dollars. That means the current government propaganda is suggesting an intervention with public tax dollars that is 100X greater than what current standards are considered acceptable.

By Obama's own standards then, one can only assume that the medical care we offer patients as physicians is vastly cheaper, to the tune of 100x than what he considers acceptable. If he is willing to spend 5 million dollars for one quality adjusted life year, he has no reason to complain about the excess cost of treatment going on in McAllen, Texas. And in fact, he would be forced to retract all his rhetoric up to this point and offer payment to physicians and hospitals 100X greater than is currently being spent.

If Obama is going to be intellectually honest with his American followers, he will have to find away to offer universal health care for 100 billion dollars over 10 years, not 1 trillion dollars. If he is going to stay within the 50K QALY benchmark, saving 20K lives a year at a cost of 1 trillion dollars is bad government, bad medicine and bad economics.

The Art of the Brick Tour: Cool Lego Art

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There's a photo from the Art of the Brick Tour of cool Lego art.

I saw this in the Kansas City Tour.  Amazing leggo art by Nathan Sawaya.

Does Jogging Prevent Cancer?

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Does jogging prevent cancer?
The men who jog  for at least 30 minutes a day have a 50 percent reduction in the risk of dying prematurely from cancer
What's your excuse?

Criminalizing Off Label Medication Use

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So Michael Jackson's cardiologist may have administered propofol to help him sleep. Not exactly an approved FDA indications. But should the doctor be charged with manslaughter? If he had died during surgery would he be charged with manslaughter? Dr WhiteCoat says...
Fore every medicine that has ever been used off label, this precedent of establishing criminal negligence for unapproved FDA indications is just plain scary. Perhaps it's time to stop treating diabetic neuropathy with Neurontin. Perhaps it's time to stop treating ascites with lasix. Perhaps it's time to stop treating diabetic nephropathy with lisinopril. If having a deadly side effect of a medication, used off label, convicts a doctor for manslaughter, I fear all physicians risk their livelihood for bad outcomes not in their control.

Saturday, August 22, 2009

Is Psychiatric Illness Associated With Multiple Drug Allergies?

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Hospitalist Steve Parker wonders out loud whether psychiatric illness is associated with multiple drug allergies.
Entirely separate from the fibromyalgia issue, I've long thought that having numerous drug allergies or sensitivities is a marker for psychiatric disease. The more allergies, the more severe the psychiatric disease.
I would also like to add, along those same lines, it's not only the number of allergies that raise the spectrum of underlying clinically significant psychiatric illness, it's the type of allergies.

I'm going on record as saying if you have an allergy (in the true sense of the word) to prednisone, your physician is silently crying in pain.

We Don't Need Health Insurance Reform, We Need Health System Reform

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Boy if that statement doesn't hit the nail on the head.

Let me give you the truth of our current reality. We as a nation are headed for a devastating bankruptcy at the hands of our current health insurance model. A model that pays for everything (of substance) and passes on those costs to current and future generations.

Obama's push for health insurance reform will do nothing to save America's model that pays for everything (of substance) and passes on those costs to current and future generations.

The argument, as I see it, is not that a lack of insurance is bankrupting our country, but rather the model of insurance itself. Getting more of the same won't make health care less expensive, it will make it more expensive. And ultimately, if we keep paying for things the way we pay for things now, there won't be any money left for anyone.

Some people argue that spending money now with universal access will create a healthier and cheaper to insure America. To that, all I have to say is look to the history of the last 50 years. Medicare did not make health care cheaper. It has, for the last 50 years lead to a devastating economic death spiral. FREE=MORE is bankrupting our country. The model of insurance is bankrupting our country. The storm on the horizon will be the death of America, unless something changes, and soon.

I think the whole current nonsense debate is a travesty both from the Republicans and the Democrats. Opponents and proponents are both focusing on the wrong issues at hand. The issue is cost. If you can't control costs, nothing else matters.

Doctors every where should embrace a system of delivery that encourages value and quality. The ones that will fight you tooth and nail are the ones that are ripping off America with their pretend care. The bad ones will suffer as will.

The physicians most expensive procedure is the pen. If doctors can't lead the way toward cost effective care, then they should get out of the way while others do. Because if we as physicians don't do something, we will have spent all the Treasury's money for all future generations. And we will have no one to blame but ourselves.

Friday, August 21, 2009

Medicare Premiums Paid In vs Medicare Benefits Paid Out.

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Seniors didn't pay in all their life and are therefore entitled to the unlimited benefits of FREE=MORE Medicare has to offer. What they paid into was a scam, the type of scam that put Madoff in jail for the rest of his life.  Here's an explanation of Medicare premiums paid in vs Medicare benefits paid out:
taxes over his lifetime
Without entitlement reform the country is screwed. This debate about Medicare reform is entirely separate from the debate about insurance and access reform for the rest of the country. If we get universal care and insurance reform so the rest of the country is, in essence, given the same deal seniors now get, but we do nothing to change the current trajectory of spending, we only accelerate the bankrupting of our country.

How we can offer FREE=MORE to the entire country and expect a different result is beyond me. It would take a massive political will to do the right thing for Medicare. It is a political will that does not exist in Washington. It will never exist because politicians are not in the business of committing political suicide. Thus is the nature of government, one that governs for itself and not for its people.

Jon Stewart Talks Health Care (Hilarious Video)

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Jon Stewart talks health care in this hilarious video below.

Building A Bridge To Accountability

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As many of you know, I am a fan of bundled payments. Many folks equate that to capitation, where doctors take on the risk of defined payments to care for a panel of patients. Bundled payments are not capitation. Capitation assumes all patients represent the same risk.

The United States Is Broke

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We live in scary times.The United States is broke.

Perhaps we should do what the poor people with bad credit who write bad checks do. They just stop caring. Perhaps the solution for America is to stop caring. I mean we are the ones with the nukes, right? What's the world going to do, attack us and demand their money back? Get real. This is America.

Most families who have cash flow that can't service their debt declare bankruptcy. What does our government do? They print more money. The only way out of this mess is to do as the Zimbabweans do.



The other solution is to stop spending.

Thursday, August 20, 2009

The Housing Market Crash And Primary Care

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Let us take a look at the housing market crash and how it relates to primary care.  This house  below is listed for $1,127,000. The amount owed is $1,317,000. It listed in January for $1,700,000. This is a 3B, 2B 2000 sf home in in west Pasadena, CA.
 
I wouldn't pay more than 150K for a house like that. It looks like a slum. Screw the weather. This housing market is doing exactly what it needs to. Bringing people back to reality.

By the way, what kind of person buys a 1.1 million dollar home? Even with 20% down (and how many people have $200,000 sitting around) a 30 year mortgage, without property taxes and insurance, at a paltry 6% would still set you back $5,600 a month. That's a 12 month payment of almost $67,000 without taxes and insurance. Tack on another $1,200 a month for taxes at 1.25% and your looking at a $7,800 a month mortgage payment, or about $80,000 a year. Add a couple grand for insurance and you're looking at a monthly mortgage payment of $8,000.
Let's assume that this person was spending 70% of their after tax take home pay on their mortgage, an astronomical amount. That leaves them with a take home paycheck of $11,500 or $3,500 to cover everything else. Let's say they have a family of four. That $3,500 a month in income would have to cover
  • groceries
  • school requirements
  • clothing/shoes/
  • household upkeep/ personal supplies
  • utilities
  • cell phones
  • computers/gaming/Internet
  • car payments
  • car insurance
  • gasoline
  • car repairs
  • health insurance/premiums/co pays and/deductibles
  • life insurance
  • disability insurance
  • car insurance
  • retirement contributions
  • entertainment expenses
  • vacations
Assuming that this is even possible, how much would a family have to make to take home $11,500 a month in cash? Between the 9% tax rate, and probably a 25% effective federal tax rate, and add on an effective FICA/Medicare tax rate of 4% and your looking at a monthly paycheck of $18,500, or a yearly salary of about $220,000.

In other words, in order to afford a 1.1 million dollar home in Pasadena, you would have to put down 20%, or $200K, spend 70% of your take home pay or $8,000 a month on your mortgage, survive on $3,500 a month to pay for all your fixed and variable needs, including retirement contributions, life insurance, disability insurance and health insurance.

And you would have to make more than the average primary care physician.

And that's why the housing market is crashing. It's not because homes in California are too expensive. It's because there aren't enough primary care physician to hold it up.

Warren Buffett Speaks Up

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Warren Buffet Speaks up on why politicians can't be trusted.
 
As they promise you everything, they take away everything. For every dollar we print to pay for cash for clunkers or TARP or Stimulus this or bail out that, it's one less dollar you have in purchasing power. If the solution to debt was printing more money, we would all have our own Federal Mint in our HP home office.

And everyone would live happily ever after. It's not right when Republicans do it. It's not right when Democrats do it. As far as I'm concerned, both parties have bribed their way into the hearts and minds of the entitled American people. The more money they promise their constituents, the more power they achieve.

Until one day the money becomes worthless. That will be the day the revolution arrives.

Heart Failure Performance Core Measures and Outcomes

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I've noticed a major transformation in the way the hospital practices medicine in the six years I've been at Happy's hospital. When I first started we didn't have things like ORYX measures. These are things that your fine government has decided are the golden road to quality. It used to be voluntary. Then it wasn't. Now, if you don't submit quality data, you get dinged several % of your total revenue take from the Medicare National Bank (MNB). If you're looking at a 500 million dollar take, 1% could be 5 million dollars. That's a lot of money in an industry who's margins run in the low single digits. And they run that way because they are forced to hire folks and provide health insurance and retirement plans for folks who do nothing more than audit charts and organize the data for delivery to the Joint Commission to guarantee that their employer gets their 5 million dollar pay day.
 
All of this quality medicine being delivered by hospitals is supposed to be improving outcomes. Right? I mean, give everyone with pneumonia the pneumovax shot and we should see a decrease in pneumonia admissions. Right? That should translate into fewer dollars being spent by the MNB. Right? Give your heart failure patients an ACEi, assess their LV function, give them smoking cessation advice, and give them heart failure associated discharge instructions and they should do better. Right? They should get admitted less often. Right?

Well, not so fast. The Journal of the American Medical Association in its August 19th edition is reporting on an editorial by Drs Gregg Fonarow and Eric Peterson. They make a fine case that all the money being spent on data gatherers, chart police and data processors have done nothing but increase the cost of delivering care in this country and have not changed outcomes one bit . It's a fascinating read.

Heart failure is one of the most common causes of death and a top reason for hospitalization in this country. For Medicare beneficiaries, it is the most common cause of 1-year readmissions and mortality with 65% and 35% respectively. So it makes sense for the MNB to force hospitals into doing things that should prevent both. Right?

In 1996, the MNB aligned with the Joint Commission to create national standards for heart failure performance measures. As I stated above, these were
  • measuring LV function
  • using ACEi in those with with LV dysfunction (and now ARBs too)
  • providing complete HF discharge instructions
  • counseling on smoking
In 13 years these performance measure have remained steadfast. The editorialists note that it takes a hospital a conservative estimate of 22.2 minutes per heart failure case to abstract the data for delivery , which accounts for 400,000 person-hours spent each year by US hospitals. And that is just for heart failure patients. This doesn't include the person-hours spent abstracting the data on other ORYX measures which include AMI, pneumonia, pregnancy, psych services, children's asthma, surgical improvement (SCIP), VTE, stroke and hospital outpatient measures.

They also appropriately note the expensive IT support, which can run in the millions of dollars for implementation of the systems processes required for reporting to the JC.

One would expect a return on investment for the MNB for forcing hospitals to spend millions of dollars to implement process to improve outcomes. Right?

What the doctors found was a dramatic improvement in the reporting of the performance metrics. From 2002 - 2007 , discharge instructions improved from 31% to 78%, LV assessment improved from 82% to 95%, use of ACEi or ARB improved from 74% to 90% and smoking cessation counseling went almost universal from 42% to 96%.

These are dramatic improvements. Clearly, when hospitals risk losing millions, implementing systems process to meet mandated performance metrics are seen as imperative. Hospitals will spend millions to meet their regulatory obligations as set forth by the MNB or risk losing millions of dollars for not.
So what did the outcomes data show with regards to one year readmission rates and one year mortality for heart failure patients in the MNB over this six year period of dramatic performance metric improvements?

It showed no change in re admissions or one year mortality.


The most likely explanation is the right explanation. In other words the performance metrics chosen by the MNB and raised to God like status in the race to quality are one more example of junk science.

As the authors note, only one of the four measures are supported by direct clinical trial evidence. And of six therapies demonstrated in randomized clinical trials to reduce morality, five of them were not included as performance metrics.

In other words, what we have here is institutionalization of junk science. Forcing hospitals and doctors to do things that have no change in outcomes, cost millions upon millions of dollars to implement, and have no beneficial effect on patients or the wallet of the American tax payer.

With that I say anyone who wishes more government control upon medicine should walk cautiously with both eyes wide open. You get what you pay for. In this case, you get a bunch of performance measures with near universal acceptance by hospitals all across this country, costing hundreds of millions of dollars a year, and no benefit to anyone except those who do their job day in and day out collecting worthless information while the rest of America struggles with the high cost of health care.

Any you wonder why American medicine is so expensive.

Strangest Recall Ever?

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What is the strangest recall ever?

Voluntary safety recall of Plush Uterus due to potential choking hazard for children.
I hate to see what the plush penis looks like. Is it not enough to just give your kid a blankie from Walmart anymore?

Systemic Fibromyallergia

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Happy's medical practice is 100% clinical. We do some teaching of medical students and residents, but all in all, we do little, if any, clinical based research. So it came as a shock to me when I found out one of my partners was doing his own independent clinical research study. What he found was the discovery of the perfect clinical diagnostic tool for "How To Diagnosis Fibromyalgia." This test carries:

  • A sensitivity of 100%: If you have fibromyalgia this sign will be positive
  • A specificity of 100%: If you don't have fibromylagia this sign will be negative
  • A positive predictive value of 100%: If you have this sign, you will have fibromylagia
  • A negative predictive value of 100%: If you don't have this sign, you will not have fibromylagia
Nothing in medicine comes with such a remarkable track record. What is this remarkable sign?
Having four or more drug allergies.
I believe the pain of fibromyalgia is real.The FDA has even approved medication to treat it. What I can't explain is the physiology behind the muscle pain as it relates to the systemic rejection of ones body to multiple medications across multiple different class effects.

If you want to know if your patient has fibromyalgia, don't waste your time with a trigger point exam.  Just take their allergy history

If you're a student or a resident, it's time to tuck away many more of these other great medical signs:

Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Why Do Black People Have A Lower Lung Cancer Survival?

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Truth or fantasy?

Patient myths and misunderstandings can play a big role in the medical decision making process. FridaWrites, discusses her thoughts on the matter.


Scotts Lawn Care Won't Hire Job Applicants Who Smoke By Screening All Applicants For Nicotine.

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Scotts lawn care company won't hire smokers. And guess what. The rate of smokers has dropped from 28% to just 7%.

I can only imagine what a massive benefit this is to all the Scotts employees who get their health insurance from Scotts. Less expensive health insurance means a more viable company, and perhaps more money in the employees pockets as well.

Going one step further, as the article notes, the Cleveland Clinic stopped hiring smokers two years ago. And now, they are considering expanding that ban to obese people.

Some people will argue that it's not fair. Why treat smokers and obesity differently? Both are considered lifestyle addictions in one way or another.

What do you think?

Workman's Comp Gastric Bypass Lawsuit

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One way to guarantee employers don't hire fat people is to put them on the hook for gastric bypass surgery. Twist your ankle walking in from the parking lot? Bruise your shoulder tripping on the copier? Hurt your back picking up a ream of paper? Be prepared to pay for their weight loss surgery because their pain won't go away without it.Or just don't hire them as some are contemplating...

Did Napoleon Dynamite Have Asperger's Or Was He A Geek NOS?

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A Doctor Gets Sued And Blogs About It

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Here are all 24 installments.


Wow.

Hot Appy: How Does A Doctor Really Think?

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How does a doctor really think?  As much as some people would like to believe there is a guideline and a protocol for everything a doctor does, there isn't. We won't get it right every time. The times we don't stick with us and affect us the next time someone with RLQ pain comes in. Is the punishment for not getting it right scanning everyone with RLQ pain? In the defensive world we live in, for many doctors, the answer is yes.

Should it be that way? 99 trillion dollars says no.

You don't even need to lose a lawsuit to practice with this mentality. Hell, you don't even need to get sued. You just have to hear about the trauma other doctors went through practicing competent medicine and being accused of negligence. When you hear about your colleague getting sued for missing that hot appy, despite all your data suggesting otherwise, you will want to scan every RLQ pain, no matter what the data says.

Imagine for a moment if you were driving through a parking lot at 3 mph when a child runs in front of you. You slam on your breaks but you hit him anyway. The child has a massive head injury and lays comatose for the rest of their life. You weren't drunk or stoned. You didn't do anything wrong. Now imagine if the mother of that child sued you for medical bills, pain and suffering related to lost companionship and future lost wages because you were the one who hit her child.

Imagine driving through your entire life worrying that you would get sued for doing everything right, but you just happened to be a party to a bad outcome. Even if you didn't lose the lawsuit, the trauma of the thought of getting sued would consume you daily. You would do everything you could to avoid putting yourself into a position of being sued.

For physicians, that means ordering every test every time in a failed attempt at perfection. A perfection that doesn't exist.

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

What Should You Do When A Patient Refuses To Leave The Hospital?

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What should you do when a patient refuses to leave the hospital?  A reader asked me the question:

i am a nurse that practices in an acute care hospital. i have run into several patients lately that "refuse" to be discharged when the hospitalist writes up the orders to do so. These patients are appropriate for d/c as they are medically stable and being sent home w/appropriate scripts, f/u, and instructions. Have you run into this and what is your feeling or your colleagues feelings on this matter? It astonishes and infuriates me as it impedes my job as the rn.
That's a great question. I have run into this in the past. I blogged about it here.

For Medicare, you give them "The Letter". Medicare allows their beneficiaries to refuse to be discharged from the hospital if they don't think it's right. At this point, if the patient refuses to leave, some magic force inside the Medicare National Bank reviews the chart and makes a determination if discharge is justified. This can take up to 24 hours. If the MNB agrees with the doc, then Medicare will refuse to pay for anything past the discharge date. You tell the patient their insurance has run out and I've never seen anyone refuse to leave.

For Private Insurance. There is no review process that I'm aware of. If the patient has received discharge orders and refuses to leave, they should be informed that they will be self pay, at self pay rates. At over $1000 a day, I've never had anyone refuse to leave

Medicaid (and uninsured for that matter). Since they pay for nothing and there is no "letter" policy like Medicare, the patients don't care one way or another. In these situations, I tell them they have been discharged and my job is done. What happens next is up to the hospital. If the hospital wants to escort the patient out with security, that's up to them. But I stop rounding on a patient that refuses to leave, in whom I have discharged. It has never come this for me.

How do you all handle this situation?

Who Gets Admitted to the Hospital?

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Ever wonder who gets admitted to the hospital?  Here is a one day analysis of my hospitalist patient list.
17 Patient
 
Average height 5 '2''
Median height 5' 4''
Shortest height 4' 7''
Tallest height 6'4''

Average weight 222.2 pounds
Median weight 177 pounds
Lightest weight 123 pounds
Heaviest weight 454 pounds

Average BMI 36.6
Median BMI 31.2
Lowest BMI 21.5
Highest BMI 88.9

Percent of patients with low BMI <20 0% (0/17) Percent of patients with normal BMI 20-25 35.3% (6/17) Percent of patients with overweight BMI 26-30 5.8% (1/17) Percent of patients with obesity BMI 31-40 41.2% (7/17) Percent of patients with morbid obesity BMI >40 17.6% ( 3/17)

Percent of patients diabetic 58.8% (10/17)
Percent of normal BMI patients with diabetes 50% (3/6)
Percent of overweight or obese patients with diabetes 63.6% (7/11)

Of the seven folks without diabetes, 4 (57%) were obese. Why were they admitted?


1) Hyponatremia
2) Facial cellulitis
3) Stroke
4) Stroke


Of the seven folks without diabetes 3 (47%) were of normal BMI. Why were they admitted?

1) Bowel obstruction
2) Drug overdose
3) Orthopaedic fracture

Of the ten folks with diabetes , 6 (60%) were obese . Why were they admitted?

1) To initiate dialysis (Obese)
2) Sepsis (Obese)
3) Pneumonia (Obese)
4) Bowel obstruction (Obese)
5) Heart failure (Obese)
6) Renal failure (Obese)

Of the ten folks with diabetes, 4 (40%) were not obese. Why were they admitted?

1) Bowel obstruction
2) Fever of unknown origin
3) Persistent diarrhea and dehydration
4) Heart failure

What percent of patients carried a BMI over 30 OR a diagnosis of diabetes? 14/17 or 82%.

82% folks. I'm sure if I was able to do add in current or prior tobacco abuse, that number would push 90-95% or more.

The hospital is basically a short term residential apartment for those with obesity or diabetes. If you want to tackle the cost of health care in this country you will have to find a way to drastically reduce the prevalence of both. While just a small sample of my daily population, it is compelling to see how the numbers break out. If you have diabetes or a BMI over 30, you will, at some point represent the 80% of the people who visit our hospitals every year. When the Medicare National Bank is bankrupt in seven short years, and nobody can pay your room rent at Happy's hospital, you will not want to be part of that 80%.

Now is not the time for excuses. Now is the time for action.